8/24/2005

it's not paranoia if...

There are some really cooky theories floating around. I think our ability to tell and believe in outrageous stories is a very interesting feature of the human brain. For example, the idea that the US government is hiding evidence of intelligent extra-terrestrial life is pretty silly, for a variety of reasons tangential to where I am going in giving my answer to your question Charles. There is certainly no shortage of paranoid conspiracy theorists regarding all sorts of things the Bush Administration or conservatives in general may or may not have done. Key to these kinds of stories is that the accused denies the charges (for example, the idea that some people due to CIA and German banking connections and unlikely futures trading in days prior to 9/11/01 had foreknowledge of the planes flying into the Twin Towers, or the idea that President Bush is the anti-Christ). Just today, someone at work forwarded the urban legend email about the needle under the gas pump giving someone some wierd disease.

But it's not paranoia or silly conspiratorial thinking when the groups themselves are the ones advocating their radical positions. The push for control of economic and spiritual activities in the pursuit of power is nothing new or unique to America. I would argue that our Founding Fathers did an incredible thing in recognizing the twin dangers of the Western world: religious wars and the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few. That's why they purposefully crafted a document that separated religion from the state and vested power in the masses (land, which was cheap) rather than wealth (which was concentrated). This second point is rather widely debated, with many people saying they were just rich people who protected their wealth. I think it's pretty convincing, though, between their having to do everything behind closed doors to notes taken during the preceedings that they were selling out the rich for the benefit of the new nation. Jefferson and Washington, among others, actually died bankrupt.

It's only natural that there are some people who want to undo that vision; the very fact that our basic Constitutional structure has lasted this long is a testament to the groundwork laid by our 18th century ancestors. We have done horrible things to ourselves and others, but we've recovered every time, and generally speaking, I'm an optimist about progress.

In the religious realm, it's a little easier to track motives and goals due to the necessity of attracting followers and the donations they bring, and the lack of necessity to make popular statements since the Religious Right isn't powerful enough to outright destroy the separation between church and state and simply govern as a theocracy. The plutocrats in business and government hide their language much more subtlely precisely because our current Constitutional arrangement makes their wealth and power dependent upon consumers and voters, although they have been increasingly successful at limiting this unwanted intrusion. In extreme cases, wealthy people still go to jail and lose elections.

So for information about the movement to get religious leaders more involved in government and running society, here are some good websites:

Theocracy Watch
About.com
Americans United

And in their own words:

Christian Broadcasting Network
Christian Coalition
Discovery Institute
Family Research Council
Focus on the Family
Jerry Falwell
Moral Majority
Sun Myung Moon
Tim Lahaye

The fundamental question to ask about leaders of the Religious Right is why they spend so much time accumulating material wealth and exercising dominion over the way that other people live their lives. That's a very secular, Macheavelian pursuit, especially when organizations try to use the state for those ends.

Class warfare is alive and well; it's just that the rich have been the only people fighting it for the last 25 years. There is a group of think tanks and wealthy individuals in government and business that want to transform our republic into a cross between fascism and feudalism. Instead of religion, they cloak their ideology in the language of economics. But they don't advocate policies that secure an efficient market economy, which requires things like clearly defined property rights, perfect information, and competition. Instead, they advocate giving a blank check to large corporations, whose boards of directors are actually comprised of an amazingly small number of wealthy people, to do whatever they want. And significantly, to do it in secrecy with no public debate or accountability. From particular policy areas like repealing the estate tax, minimum wage, and environmental legislation, to general approaches like eliminating social insurance while expanding government subsidies to large corporations and changing the tax code to tax consumption rather than wealth, the idea is to quite literally create a ruling aristocracy that controls the economic resources of the country.

The fundamental question to ask laissez-faire capitalists is why they are so secretive and inconsistent in applying economic analysis to policymaking. They're not anarchists; they want very large government expenditures on things like the military and the prison system and police forces and corporate welfare. But at the same time, they oppose government intervention that promotes competition, protects consumers, strengthens education, supports an independent media, and increases accountability. Why, exactly, did wealthy executives of energy firms get to meet secretly with the Vice President, a man currently being paid by Halliburton, who to this day has fought to keep the public from knowing the details of the meetings? Why did the government explicitly prevent itself from negotiating volume discounts with drug companies? The reason this isn't consistent with either a small government or a market economy is because the real desire isn't ideological; it's the simple desire to accumulate wealth and power. The trouble with that is it's slightly incompatible with democracy. Already, the amount of corruption in our government is incredible, as is the unresponsiveness of political and business leaders to demands by voters, consumers, and employees. For example, most people would spend the federal budget radically differently than the last several budget appropriations, while a clean environment and living wages are popular demands.

Some good websites about the concentration of wealth and power:

Endgame.org
Fair Economy
Inequality.org
Marshallbrain
American Way

In their own words:

American Enterprise Institute
Club for Growth
Heritage Foundation
National Taxpayers Union
Americans for Tax Reform

None of this is to say that a Christian state or a plutocracy would necessarily be bad; that's a different discussion (although I'm sure you can tell my answer is yes and yes). My point here is to show that these really are movements and not disparate groups like many of the progressive issue-based organizations.

6 comments:

SavRed said...

Nate--As always you don't disappoint with the references and well-thought argument.

I think I might end up paying you to tutor me on how to debate.

However, and you had to know there would be a but here, you define a the Christian Right's many different websites and agendas as radical. How can something that has been around for 2,000 years be all that radical?

Maybe I can lend personal perspective here (not as impressive as a list of websites or citations from a professional journal--but it counts where the rubber meets the road). The Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition and all of those guys are REACTORS. Reactors to a perceived threat. And that threat? Secularism and far left thinkers and believers who hold to their secularism and atheism and radicalism as a theology as fervently as any Christian does to theirs.

I can't loose upon you reams of data but I can tell you I was around when Roe v. Wade came out and this event absolutley GALVANIZED the Catholic community to which I still belong. Roe v. Wade wasn't a mandate of the people, Nate, it was judicial activism of the worst sort.

From my perspective, it was an outright attack of secularism upon the values of the majority of the people. Americans aren't built to rollover Nate. They mobilize, get the message out, collect money, and conscript armies to defeat invaders. While no actual bloodshed has occurred with this war (I know you can bring up abortion clinic bombings, gay bashing incidents, etc. but that's not what I'm talking about), the battle lines are fairly clear to most people. And having a belief to cherish and hold dear and fight for makes our human existence meaningful, doesn't it?

I'll save separation between church and state, the ACLU, and political correctness, along with the establishment of the Victim class for another day.

Considering you are in a different realm than I am, business-wise, I'll leave the business stuff alone except to comment that I think there are plenty of examples of doing things the way you would have them done not working out so well either.

Fascism and feudalism or just plain you get what you earn?

Concentration of wealth and power, I would argue is absolutley essential. Wouldn't you want a farmer who can farm be in charge of farming instead of a crackhead? Why would you want the egalitarian dream of everybody having the same thing? If you are good at making money and creating products that people want, then by God, do it. And the less government interference the better. Work the angles. Make things happen. Or we could just be Swaziland, I guess, or maybe France.

Charles

Nathaniel said...

I see what you're saying (and by they way, debating in more detail than soundbites is, sadly, a talent withering away in our public discourse).

I wouldn't disagree particularly strongly with the contention that the leadership arising out of the late 1970s was a reaction to the loss of "morals" that were felt to have existed in the 1950s. We might disagree on the nature of the actual threat, but I would agree there is a great deal of fear and anger over a perceived threat.

But I wasn't trying to talk about whether or not that threat is real and people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and James Dobson are merely reacting to it (and whether their reaction is good or bad). I was trying to explain that there are people lobbying government very hard to use its authority to force religious ideals on other people, with the added commentary that the leaders just happen to be quite wealthy themselves. Pat Robertson, on one of his trips to Israel linking US churches to Israeli settlements, was given his own Lear Jet. Not exactly the travel arrangements the rest of the flock get. These people are worth millions and even billions of dollars. When the President of the Southern Baptist Convention issued his boycott against Disney for being too friendly to gays, he went ahead and took his family to Disneyworld because he "had already bought the tickets".

I argue very strongly that spirituality is a more important issue than many coastal liberals give it credit. But whenever the state is involved, it is clear that popular opinion is solidly behind a pluralistic view; the separation of church and state is a bedrock of our legal and cultural identity. There are two separate issues we're talking about. 1) Do people like James Dobson advocate a theocracy, and 2) is that good or bad? My post was addressing point 1. The leaders of the organizations themselves fully advocate politicizing the discussion; getting it out of the church and into the statehouse. I, and the vast majority of Americans, do not want government dictating morality to them. But that doesn't mean we're soulless or immoral people; Pat Robertson isn't the only authority on Scripture.

As to the concentration of wealth, again, I see what you are saying. I believe in competition and profit motives; I'm not saying we shouldn't entice doctors to study for years with six figure salaries or reward innovaters who start new businesses with a sizable fortune. Inequality is part of capitalism; Sweden and Japan are two of the most homogenous developed nations, yet wealth disparities exist in both countries. I'm not talking about the fact that the richest 100 million Americans have a higher net worth than the poorest 100 million.

I'm talking about the fact that the richest American has a higher net worth than the poorest 100 million Americans. The fastest growth in our nation's history happened in the post-war era, when wages were growing similarly across all income levels. As wage growth has slowed, the amount of growth at the very top has accelerated tremendously. When a few thousand people control a huge percentage of the resources, then it undermines the strength of democratic governance and market forces. That's what a plutocracy is; when few enough people are wealthy enough to distort governance to their own ends. And that's what has been happening; wealthy donors have been lobbying to get special treatment and handouts from the government.

Again, I'm not saying that wanting to own all the wealth in the world is necessarily bad (that's a separate issue). What I'm saying is that there has been a concerted, successful, and continuing effort to increase the concentration of wealth among the very wealthiest Americans. When Grover Norquist talks about tax cuts and free markets, he isn't advocating policies to improve life for middle class Americans. He's pushing a policy designed to make billionaires richer. Or in the words of President Bush, "his base". When multimillionaires talk about repealing the "death tax", they're not talking about helping hard-working farmers; they're talking about a very very few number of very very wealthy people. The dollar value of an estate not taxed by the estate tax is higher than the vast majority of Americans' entire net worth.

This concentration of wealth and associated undermining of democracy is a separate issue from whether or not this trend is good or bad.

SavRed said...

Nate--I need you to make this easier on me. You mention plutocracy and how the richest Americans are distorting government toward their own ends.

Being an educator, I like to throw at these little challenges and since you've proven to be fairly erudite on most of the questions I've thrown out, I'm going to appeal to your sense of challenge and ask another one of you.

Show me how the 10 richest Americans (Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffet, the Walton family, Michael Dell, Larry Ellison, and Steve Ballmer)are distorting our government. I count about about half of those guys as computer technlogy billionaires, one mega-investor, and the rest coming from the Wal-Mart juggernaut.

So where is the conspiracy?

Charles

Nathaniel said...

Sure, and just because it's unexpected, I'll keep this somewhat short. First, I want to mention two things. 1) The uberwealthy faction is obviously larger than just 10 people, and it's not necessarily the top 10 richest. 2) Not everyone with oodles of money agrees; many people recognize that democracy, stability, and free markets cannot coexist with oligarchy, corruption, secrecy, and other facets of concentrating wealth.

Your particular question was only the top ten, so here is a partial list of things that come to mind:

1) The Digital Millenium Copyright Act
2) Pumping huge quantities of dollars into local elections to get unfavorable zoning desicions changed
3) Incredible monopoly pricing, even to organizations like schools
4) Violating employee rights to unionize
5) Promising tax revenue/and or job creation in local municipalities to get special handouts (especially tax breaks) and then not delivering
6) Opposing popular living wage legislation
7) Opposing popular environmental legislation
8) Urging government to get involved with protecting their interests (think copyright enforcement, for example) but trying to pass that tax burden onto other Americans
9) Devoting huge fortunes to unproductive personal luxuries rather than productive investments
10) Buying both public and private media stations and then restricting content and investigative focus
11) Punishing managers who speak out publicly against corporate policies.
12) Massive support of individual politicians, with the understanding that particular legislation which will affect them will be dealt with favorably (in other countries, this is called bribery)
13) Opposing accountability in banking, financial services, and corporate auditing
14) Forming industry organizations of major corporations to lobby government, making it more difficult to see who is actually behind the lobbying
15) Negligence in enforcing good corporate governance of the vast number of businesses in which they hold significant shares

Essentially, when very wealthy people want to, they use slick PR, secrecy, and old fashioned bribery to thwart the will of the people. That's what plutocrats do.

SavRed said...

Nate--Here's the deal: I've been to the beach today and I've had about 8 beers. Now, I've mixed up a big pitcher of vodka and diet orange soda (don't ask, it's my fave though), so I'm fairly incoherent.

However, I can't fail to mention that at least two, maybe more of the top 10 are screaming liberals. Doesn't that plutocracy thing work both ways?

Just curious. And drunk.

Charles

Nathaniel said...

If my blog is still interesting after 8 beers, more power to ya. I would say that a plutocracy works all ways. Go Google Ted Kennedy and alcohol or Noelle Bush and cocaine or George Bush and Harken or Neil Bush and Silverado S&L or Paige Laurie and Mizzou Arena and so on and so on. It's not that rich people are out explicitly to screw the rest of us; it's that they don't expect to live by the same rules as us. They expect to live awash in luxury while many people strugge to raise a family. When growth of personal wealth and the public good come into conflict, they expect the public to suffer for their personal gain (whether that be financial, or avoiding jail time, or something else).

The key difference, from the perspective of democratic governance, between, say, George Soros and the Club for Growth, is that Soros is trying to promote honest dialogue about wealth and the affects that huge inequity has on society. The Club for Growth, rather than being honest that they are trying to amass more wealth and power for themselves, tries to argue for a higher principle; they suggest that their wealth is a consequence of good policies rather than the result desired by the policies they advocate. They promote dangerous ideas like wealthy people deserve to be wealthy (the dangerous part being the corallary that poor people are lazy slobs who deserve to be poor), that support of free markets really means oligarchy and its associated lack of government oversight and competition, that morality and the public good have no place in economic analysis (in the cost-benefit criterion, the cost and benefit components must attempt to apply monetary values to non-monetary components as well as financial components, or else the values don't capture the complete picture of an economic transaction), and that private actors are always better than government at solving problems.

It very well could be that American voters like transfering dollars they might spend on their own families to extremely wealthy stakeholders in Enron or Halliburton or Exxon or Wal-Mart and so on. But it could also be that American voters like supporting sensible environmental policies, basic living wage legislation, local business ownership, and other alternatives to authoritarian rule by corporate and political elites.

My contention is that this should be a public debate decided at the ballot box, not in secretive kickbacks in backroom meetings and slick, but misleading, PR operations. I trust markets and voters immensely, but that requires transparency, accountability, and easy access to accurate information in order to function properly.

And per your request, I'm not asking about the orange soda.